hacking or sites shutting down, and instagram, and nazdaq, so many others, washington post, "new york times," amazon, again and again, you see a pattern. >> yeah, you better believe it, every single digital asset we have in it country is under attack. neil: do you think that nazdaq was? >> it is, why would you not. neil: this stuff they are talking aboutal go rythms that did not mesh you are not buying that. >> it may will be but it is still under attack. neil: what do we do? >> keep your defenses up, if in talking about defense budget, if i had my choice wean spending money on -- between spending money on metal or on digital protection, i am spending it on digital protect every day of the week, someone explained to me, if you look at a warship, it is still a tech language -- technological practice artechnoe time you get to the third year of the building of that, it is obsolete, and if i am attacking u.s., do i attack the port or an allie or the nazdaq? >> you think there was some what of a concerted effort of a variety of folks with bad intentions. >> oh, yeah, are you kidding me, i'